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dicards - 07/02/2020 17:27:06
   
Unbranded Dies

Don't want to upset anyone but I am not sure if people realise that a lot of unbranded stamps and dies are actually ripped off from craft companies, which is one of the reasons that some of them have gone out of business.  The reason these people can sell so cheap is because they have none of the development costs, etc.  Also the dies and stamps are often not good quality and I have seen complaints that the dies do not cut properly.  In case anyone does not believe me, Joanna Sheen has a load of her designs copied and they even had the cheek to use photos from her website to advertise them!  Just saying.

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kateBcrafty - 19/02/2020 19:10:19
   

well I shall be honest here.

I have loads of unbranded dies and they all cut great.

I have loads of their stamps too!

I have reels of their ribbons.

yes they are "copies" /whatever and the China stores blatently advertise that they sell, Sizzix/S.Binders/Tattered Lace and many more Brands etc.

My Hubbie  recently bought 3 new sets of Tattered Lace at £30 a set for Xmas

I was on The China site and the same dies for less than half the price! I wrote to T.Lace asking how can this happen, and why should I be paying TL twice the price for their same dies.

I got a reply saying they were passing the letter further up the line. I have heard nothing, and dont expect to.

All the Branded name dies are made in China, probably by these same people, so have jumped on the bandwagon.

who wouldn't if they see an "opening"?

I and lots of crafters I know, dont keep any of the money I make for selling my cards, so its good that I can keep my costs down.

and lets say we have two shops selling the same cardstock etc, same make, but one cheaper, who will you go to? I know which I would choose.

Thanks for bringing this up Di, it makes for an interesting thread, perhaps others would like to give their opinion?

Kate

 


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Jolo - 23/02/2020 13:55:20
   

Hello Ladies, most of my dies are from China! I have very few named ones, except the small cheaper ones. I wont pay TL prices, Id rather do without. A couple of the China ones dont cut great, but for the money I dont expect perfect! Im afraid I have never thought of copies when ordering from China. I just like to enjoy my hobby without spending too much lol! x Joyce x


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dicards - 23/02/2020 16:16:26
   

A lot small British companies will eventually have to close, or have already, because of constantly having their designs copied and even larger companies are feeling the pinch.  Agree that Tattered Lace are very expensive, but there are other companies a lot cheaper.  Sizzix have some great prices when they have a sale, which they do a few tiimes a year.  If you go to their site and register you will get an email whenever they have a sale.  Joanna Sheen has her Signature dies on sale half price at the moment and has special offers all the time.  Tonic Studios have a clearance section, too.  What I am trying to say is that we need to support British companies where we can or we will lose them!  Also the Chinese companies that make copies will have nobody left to copy from.

I am not getting at anybody but crafters need to realise where the designs are coming from. 


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kateBcrafty - 24/02/2020 16:04:10
   

I can see your concern, like I say it makes for interesting reading.

and the dies are  designed in GB , but are they actually made in GB? if they're not and its China, as most firms go there because its cheaper to do so, then I dont think China need to abide by British copyright ruling.and if it is China and I can say, get the same  die for couple of pound, WHY do the british companies charge such a high price, way over the odds? OK so they have overheads, but thats a BIG jump from a couple of pound to almost £40 for one die in my books,  and lets not single out TL.,  Tonic dies /Creative expressions are expensive too. (which you can get from Ali)

I have also noticed a lot of EBAY sellers have got on the bandwagon too, so if you're not prepared to wait up to 60 days, from China, you can pay that little bit more (but still cheaper than GB) and buy from them.

so here's another thought for crafters,  should we stop buying Brand dies from Ebay as well and just buy full price from the companies? if we did that then the EBAY shops will go out of business! its a vicious circle.

as Joyce has said I like to enjoy my hobby without spending too much, we all shop around for the cheapest we can get for the same item.and if other crafters are honest, they will not pay £40 when they can pay £2.

 


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reggie22 - 28/04/2020 22:28:24
   
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I work with Chinese companies, and one of the reasons why Chinese manufacturers can be so much cheaper than British ones are that wages are so much lower. And working conditions aren't great. There is no minimum wage and the hourly rate can be as low as a few pence. Nobody would work for that in the UK. That's just one explanation why prices of British-made products are higher.